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So you can see that we're still lacking partners for some people for both sides. I suggest moving the characters around, but it will become pretty uneven if we do so. (Of course, you guys are free to move if you want, or make more new characters of your choice). The North is actually really uneven. (Lionel, are you taking Hephaestus? What breed do you prefer, anyway, perhaps one of the other players can adjust her dragon for you. XD)

I'm thinking of pulling Thomas Reddrow to the North or asking one of the North dragons to move to the South. What do you think?

Some things to organize before we can finally start!

1. I need a list of places for both the North and the South. Just basic locations/names for where we can set our coverts, military bases, towns, that kind of stuff. I'd like suggestions, please.

2. I was thinking that for RP-ing, the characters can all interact with each other in their respective blogs (past tense third person narrative type, not the characters conversing through their blogs. For example: Mary took the stairs two at a time, her braids a messy, greasy trail behind her. Coming into her parents' house while still in her breeches and covered in dragon phlegm wasn't the best of things to do, but she just had to spread the news. "Mom!" she yelled excitedly. "ANNIE LAID AN EGG!")

Main threads will be in the community, the post of which will be written by either mods or a key character for the event. Logs can also be submitted to the community (for proper archiving). But for the rest of the character shenanigans, their LJs should be a good place for that. Also, RP posts should be properly titled:

[North/South] Name of Character : Location/Setting : Target character to RP with/Open to all.

But, ehehe. What do you guys think?

3. Don't forget to friend each other and have your characters' blogs join the communities!

Lastly, welcome to transmutable, teh new mod!


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Jun. 19th, 2008 05:55 am (UTC)
Nifty chart. And I congratulate transmutatble too!

One thing, Icarus and I actually haven't agreed to partner up yet. I don't have a problem with it if it's already been decided, but I'm not sure about what Icarus thinks.

Ooh, and thank goodness for thread labels.
Jun. 19th, 2008 06:00 am (UTC)
Oh, you haven't? 8D I thought there was a decision already, but do let me know if you two don't end up together, so I can fix it!

I plan on properly archiving the threads, too. XD Memory powers! Something. ♥
Jun. 19th, 2008 07:05 pm (UTC)
Oooh, that is a very pretty chart!

I wasn't objecting, I like the match up, I just want to plot out their history. Perhaps we should just play it out in journal, as our AIM times seem to never sync up.

And tag everything. Tags are your friends, your very best friends. They make everything so much easier to find and you can search by multiple terms by journal.livejournal.com/tag/tag1,tag2

Fort Sumter was the first military action of the war. It was a Northern Fort that was captured by the Confederates. I feel that most federal forts would have at least a small covert nearby. They might not all have dragons in them at all times and when they do probably not more than a handful. America is a lot bigger than England, so while they may have more dragons and more native breed diversity, they have a lot more distance to cover and I don't image they have so many dragons that this isn't a problem. The aerial force probably gets to battles late, or misses them altogether.

Exporting cotton was a huge thing for the South. It was pretty much was their entire economy. The Union blockaded their ports, which kinda sucked. Coverts would definitely be near these ports, perhaps in Richmond, Virgina (the Confederate capital) and New Orleans. The blockade led to the Battle of the Ironclads, between the CSS Virginia and the USS Monitor. Aerial backup may have been used.

North info to come.
Jun. 20th, 2008 12:51 am (UTC)
Ooh, okay then! I'm sure they'll be awesome and ferocious together. Whenever you want to begin plotting, just drop a message and we can get started.
Jun. 20th, 2008 01:25 am (UTC)
Oh, yes, XD I have every intention of tagging everything! But the mems will have to do for the stuff outside the community, probably. Although I was thinking that since there are so few of us, we can just all post in the comm or something? 8D This needs to be discussed sometime... perhaps on AIM or MSN (or YM, which I am online on half the day).

... I'll be honest with you and say that all these places that people are throwing at me are kinda confusing. 8D I'm-- not American, and we never took up American history at all, so what I know of the American war, I just picked up from this comm. XD But I'm trying to map out the coverts in a blue-and-red map! In a roundabout fashion. 8D;;;
Jun. 19th, 2008 01:33 pm (UTC)
Aaaaugh. *starts making a character* ;_;

And congratulations, transmutable!
Jun. 19th, 2008 01:48 pm (UTC)
8D;;; Go you!
Jun. 19th, 2008 02:48 pm (UTC)
I'm glad this place is finally back up on it's feet. :D

3rd person sounds appropriate for the blogs and stuff~ Me likes, me likes.

I just hope everyone comes back since it's been a while since the community updated. My captain, oooh, my captain. >_____>
Jun. 19th, 2008 02:56 pm (UTC)
XDDD Perhaps it's time we contact everyone! I shall get to that over the weekend. :3
Jun. 19th, 2008 03:25 pm (UTC)

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Jun. 20th, 2008 01:27 am (UTC)
Lol! XD Think about it a little more and then tell me if it's okey? I think at this point, we're all too excited about the RP to mind. 8D Although I think [Bad username: bubonickwoodchuck] might be making a new character.
Jun. 20th, 2008 03:47 am (UTC)
8D Hey, hey! Could you possibly coordinate with your possible captain, who's replied here? X3 Rather, I am asking if you're fine with him as your cap'n.
Jun. 19th, 2008 10:21 pm (UTC)
Cool, it's like we just had a long winter, and now life is starting to come back. Congrats transmutable, btw. Anyway, here's my two cents:

Firstly, there's gotta be a covert in or around Cincinnati. That city was one of the Union Army's main supply depots. Also in Ohio, Cleveland was a major recruiting grounds; so there probably should be a substantial covert there, or at least a breeding grounds. And since I'm rather too lazy to look up all the information for the other cities I'm thinking would be good, I'll just give their names. I was thinking:

New Orleans
St. Louis
New York City
Washington, D.C. (Although I'm not sure whether this one is important enough for a covert :P)

By the way, as I was looking up this stuff, i cam upon this little nugget of knowledge: Did you know that the city of Romney West Virginia switched hands 56 times during the war?
Jun. 19th, 2008 10:23 pm (UTC)
Oh, and also, I'm fine with Havelock being switched around to a different side, if necessary.
Jun. 20th, 2008 01:30 am (UTC)
Noted! Thank you. :D I'll get back to you on this one.
Jun. 20th, 2008 01:30 am (UTC)
This is true. 8D

Oooh! A long list! All right, I'll list these down and try to find suitable... um. Covert sizes. But which do you think would be the Very Important ones? The main RPs might end up taking place there, so at least all the characters for each sides would be around. 8Db

(... I need to find out what Romney West Virginia is first. XDDD But that IS interesting, wow, so many times! Perhaps we can make it a breeding ground or something important enough for the factions to want to own, but not important enough to fortify it or something.)
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Jun. 20th, 2008 09:36 am (UTC)
All right! I'll keep that in mind. Thanks!

I think it should @ media res, because plot things to lead to the civil war will probably 1) take too long to build up to, and 2) not involve the characters much at all. 8D It'll make way for other plot bunnies, either way.

Jun. 20th, 2008 09:41 am (UTC)
I had to delete the entry you replied to just to insert a link, and now everything looks upside down. |O|

I propose we kick off at Antietam then. It's reasonably early in the war, and great enough of a turning point in the conflict to get some good stories started.
Jun. 20th, 2008 09:45 am (UTC)
Eheehe, sorry. 8D;

--- *brain blanks out* Hmm, yeah, this looks good. Would you guys rather set the RP before or after it? 8D I can't make you guys fight each other, not yet! At least not until we find a decent battle system, and everyone's better at coordinating with their partners and stuff.
Jun. 20th, 2008 09:53 am (UTC)
Before, I suppose, leading up to the battle; while we get the fight system worked out, we could simultaneously cut our teeth by RPing some 19th-century military drama. When we have the working system, we could test it out in the battle itself.
Jun. 20th, 2008 03:13 pm (UTC)
Also, we can test run battle systems with skirmishes before the big battle. Scouting parties gone awry, that sort of thing.

If anyone has time, the book The Killer Angels is a really great read about the battle of Gettysburg. It mostly focuses on the Confederate Generals, the end of the war, and doesn't have dragons, but still a recommended read for flavor.

And thanks everyone, for the well-wishes!
Jun. 21st, 2008 02:55 am (UTC)
Exactly what I was thinking.

I have that book, but it's a lengthy and absorbing read and not everybody has the time to sit down and pore over a few hundred pages of story. Watching a movie might be better; how about a Civil War flick? Glory is my personal favourite. While watching it during preparations for this RP, I used to think how curious it would be if the prejudices and discrimination faced by the black troops of the 54th Massachusetts were shared by the first black aviators as well.

Oh, and did I mention that film kicks off at Antietam as well? |O| "A great and a terrible day..."
Jun. 21st, 2008 05:55 am (UTC)
omg. Glory. One of my most favorite movies of all time.

Just had to say that. xD
Jun. 20th, 2008 09:36 am (UTC)
Just for information, there's a gold mine of details on Wikipedia on most if not all the aforementioned places. Simply run a search on the name suffixed with "in the Civil War".

Alternatively, this list has it all.

Is the RP going to kick off in media res, as transmutable suggested? Because I feel this would impact the portrayal of at least some of the places mentioned in that list. The way territories changed hands throughout the war, and all.
Jun. 21st, 2008 03:48 am (UTC)
I'm thinking the most important one's to have coverts in, or at least beds of action, would be...um....one moment *Runs to nearest Wikipedia Portal* *Runs back* I would say that Cincinnati, Harrisburg, Indianapolis, New York, Philadelphia, Louisville, St Louis, Columbia, New Orleans, Richmond, Selma, Vicksburg (Although it might be fine to not establish a covert there until later on), Winchester, and Wilmington, if only a small one for emergency purposes. So....yeah.
Jun. 21st, 2008 08:42 am (UTC)
Thanks! I've already actually done my research on some of those, and have turned them into coverts. Now we have more! *w*
Jun. 20th, 2008 03:36 am (UTC)
I was hoping for a Raconteur or Chesapeake Red, but as we have none of those, I'd be more than willing to pair with Hephaestus if he's more than willing. |O|

I'm also going to make no bones about the fact that American history and the Civil War was never really my thing, so I don't know half as much about it as a lot of you guys. But I'll do my research when time permits. Perhaps that volume of "The Battle 100: The Stories Behind History's Most Influential Battles" on my shelf might help a little...
Jun. 20th, 2008 03:45 am (UTC)
Oho, I see, I see! I shall link this to Heps, then. X3

*w* research appreciated! I'm starting from... pretty much scratch for it. orz. Now I wish we had American history here, but it's all Greek. 8D
Jun. 21st, 2008 02:18 am (UTC)
For the record, I feel slightly before the Battle of Antietam is a good place to start. At that point people had started to realize both sides were very serious threats, and that the war would not be a quick one. How much before it though? Like two weeks, or less than that, or what. Also for the record, my father was a huge Civil War buff, and we have as many books on General Grant as we have pictures of my grandmother.
Jun. 21st, 2008 08:56 am (UTC)
Yes! We shall start there. Depending on my research, maybe we can start on the interactions and set it a month before? And then fast forward the bits we don't need, if ever.

Lol! I'll take note of that, then. Aah, which do you think should be the main headquarters for each side? I was guessing that it'd be New York, Pennyslvania and Ohio for the North? Or something, and I haven't started on the Southern states yet.
Jun. 21st, 2008 09:48 am (UTC)
A month would be nice. It'd give us enough breathing space to get used to things as the story moves up to Antietam. We're in the Eastern Theater of the war here, and my research shows that the battle of Second Bull Run was fought around that time; that would be our sandbox for testing the battle system. Following that, we would move on into the Maryland Campaign, refining the system through its several battles before ending at Antietam. Conclusion of the first chapter cum trial phase of this great RP. |O|

I do have concerns regarding the veterancy status of the dragons and their captains; surely, it is not possible for everyone to fight in every battle of the war, nor is it much fun to present everyone as a jaded hard-bitten veteran. I'm not sure I know what I'm really getting at, but mayhap some of us might have to give some fights a miss? Downplay the combat a little in favor of the drama?

I also wonder at foreign involvement in our version of the war. It'd add a whole new level of depth if British, French, or Russian emissaries were somehow present, and by that I mean dragons and captains. |O|
Jun. 21st, 2008 03:27 pm (UTC)
A month it is, then! AS for chaptering -- I was also considering that, so that we have a clear outline of the events that will be taking place in the RP. That sounds good for the first chapter, do you mind if I use it? I'll try to come up with a chapter 2, at the very least, so that won't run out of things to do (not that we will...XD). Antietam seems like a great end to the chapter. By the end of it, everyone should more or less have a good grasp of their characters, no?
Jun. 21st, 2008 08:06 pm (UTC)
I'm interested in the foreign involvement aspect of it, too, to be honest. Mainly because this entire time I've been kind of secretly wanting to RP Arthur Fremantle. On a dragon. >.>;;
Jun. 21st, 2008 03:06 pm (UTC)
So...three states for each side as headquarters? Ok, I think that Pennsylvania, Ohio and New York will definitely work for the Union, although New York should be interesting to see, since New York City was rather divided in it's sympathies. For the South, how about South Carolina, Louisiana, and Virginia? Once again, Virginia should be interesting, what with the split of West Virginia having happened at the start of the war, I'm sure there'd be a lot of angst floating around.

Oh, and I'm not sure how foreign involvement would work. The European countries adopted a very much *wait and see* attitude with the Civil War. They didn't really want to send troops over there, especially with a lot of events, minor revolutions, and nationalist uprisings going on at home. Although, Great Britain was being courted by the Confederacy for most of the war.
Jun. 21st, 2008 03:26 pm (UTC)
All right, I'll take note of these! Actually, they were also the cities that came up in my research, though I was rather confused about Ohio and Cincinnati for a while. XD There'll be major coverts in both Cleveland and Cincinnati, amirite? But the South states, they are very helpful. Thank you so much.

Hmmm. That is another issue, the foreigners. I'll ask how everyone else thinks of it.
Jun. 21st, 2008 04:51 pm (UTC)
Well, we have DRAGONS now, so the foreign involvement could be interesting. The whole problem with the Confederacy and Europe was getting a profit off of their cotton that was being blockaded, so if seekritly a troupe of Southern dragons could attempt to trade even with ships blocking the real route.

I dunno, just a random thought.
Jun. 21st, 2008 05:26 pm (UTC)
That's true that having dragons would give them a chance to run the blockade. But still, it was a really big blockade. Like covered-all-the-southern-states blockade. Anyway, if they could even spare a dragon or two (They were often low on supplies and men, so I'm thinking dragons would be in great demand, too), I think they'd probably have to be a small, courier type, or well camouflaged lightweight. For the record, most European countries did want the Confederacy to succeed, they just didn't want to get involved. Maybe a dragon-related incident convinces them to help?
Jun. 21st, 2008 09:48 pm (UTC)
Good points about foreign involvement, and I just had a thought: relations between the Union and Europe were tense too because of several European nations conveniently turning a blind eye to all of the Confederate privateering that went on in their waters (ex. the CSS Alabama attacking US whaleships, etc). Any thoughts? (The idea of a strained relationship between aerial corps and privateer dragon crews sounds interesting to me-- after all, historically Navy ships and privateers haven't gotten along all that well.)
Jun. 21st, 2008 10:16 pm (UTC)
That does bring some interesting thoughts and possibilities, in my opinion. I'd never really thought about the privateer dragons. I guess there must have been a few. Imagine a fire-breathing privateer... But still, will there even be any characters getting involved with the navy?
Jun. 21st, 2008 10:25 pm (UTC)
Hmmm...that would probably have to wait until we have more members, since it looks like we're going to be focusing on the major land-based stuff. (Still, I'm kind of attached to the idea of a privateer dragon named Alabama...oh well. *shrug*)
Jun. 22nd, 2008 03:28 am (UTC)
Who knows? Stranger things have happened then unexpected operations involving RPers and privateers taking cargo.
Jun. 22nd, 2008 03:34 am (UTC)
Interesting is the word for it. With the dawn of the ironclads, I wonder just how useful dragons would be as aerial support in a sea battle. We got no Celestials to pull capsizing stunts after all. |O|
Jun. 22nd, 2008 02:16 pm (UTC)
True, and as we have no firebreathers either...ah, well. Just a thought.
Jun. 22nd, 2008 04:39 pm (UTC)
We could have fire-breathing foreigners arrive.
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