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M-more stuff!

Right-o! Here are updates to the RP.

It is updated. I have one or two other people who said they were making characters? Please comment, so I know. Otherwise, I will move Havelock to the South to partner up with Thomas, if Thomas will be agreeable to it. (And even then, there is the question of Aurelia's captain... orz)

Chester had a good idea when he suggested that we do the RP by chapter, so I thought to integrate it already.

Chapter 1:
Interactions, introductions, etc. Some of the characters may already know each other, and stuff. Feel free to discuss those among yourselves already.
Second Battle of Bull Run (August 28 - 30, 1862)
Maryland campaign (September 13 - 15, 1862)
Battle of Antietam (September 17, 1862)

Chapter 2:
Vicksburg Campaigns (December 1862 to July 4, 1863)
Battle of Gettysburg (July 1 - 3, 1862)-- but there is a slight conflict in schedule. >.> Perhaps the reason why the confederacy lost was because the dragons from Vicksburg went to Gettysburg to assist, which left Vicksburg more susceptible to defeat?

Chapter 3:
Atlanta Campaign (May - August 24, 1864)
Shenandoah valley
(Sherman's March to the Sea as a side quest, November - December, 1864)
carolinas Campaign (February 17 - March 21, 1865)

[Edit: Please see this thread for the discussion regarding the time line.]

It's hardly final, especially the second and the third chapters, but what do you guys think? Starting there sort of made us miss out on other possible battles that happened early, but I think this is good. Also, I only concentrated on the Easter and Western theaters. If you think I missed out on the other theaters/parts, just say! These will be some of the major things happening, but please take note that we are probably going to be doing other RP-ing in between and around these main events. If the anyone out there feels that there should be additional events, or if so and so events should be taken out, then feel free to suggest it!

And I had an important question-- what about winning and losing? The battles, I mean. We know what happens in the real American Civil War, but what about in the RP? Do we deviate from history and wing who wins or loses? I figured that it wouldn't matter who'd win or lose because the RP experience matters the most, so we can just go with history and maybe some deviations, but I may be wrong about this. 8D;;;

Also, foreigners? We can actually play into picking up foreigners later on for the plot (or as early as now, really). It was discussed in the previous entry, particularly in the latest comments. It would be cool if we added them in, but I'm not certain how that will work. And, I think this should affect the outcome of the war greatly.

As for the RP mechanics, if our player pool is going to remain this small, I think we can do all RP-ing in the comm itself for better tracking. Same mechanics as before, but everything will be done in the community and tagged. Logs may be posted separately and tagged appropriately, so it's okey to have two posts of the same session. And then I suggest that everyone keep a post in their character journals to keep track of links + your own notes if you please.

To end this (long) post--- I did my research and consulted with many of you about it (thank you very much! I don't think I would have known where to start otherwise. XD), and I came up with yet another list for settings, both for the North and the South. These will serve as our main RP locations, battles aside. (Oh yeah, where do you guys want to start, location-wise?)

View it here. ... It's messy, but I really only made it for my own reference. lol. (Oh yeah, when the chart is done, I plan on making a makeshift map out of it, for reference sake. So add all you want to the locations, I'll figure it out. XD)


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Jun. 21st, 2008 05:21 pm (UTC)
Charts are great. Main locations good. No criticisms. Lack of grammar.
Jun. 21st, 2008 05:25 pm (UTC)
Lol. XD I plan on making a big doc file about all the places later on when the list has been finalized, with proper grammar and everything. :3 These are just my notes; however, I'm glad that you approve.

... They do look pretty terrible, now that I've actually stared at them a little. 8D
(no subject) - 0ranos - Jun. 21st, 2008 05:28 pm (UTC) - Expand
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Jun. 21st, 2008 05:29 pm (UTC)
Hmm. I think (tho' I have not discussed this with
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Hmm. I think (tho' I have not discussed this with <lj-user="elenariel">) that Flavia and Artemis are <i>probably</i> in New York- certainly, Artemis' biography says that she returned to her breeding ground after her first Captain died, and that that was in New Hampshire. If not there, then they might be in Washington D.C.- Flavia <i>is</i> a tactician after all.

(Do you know how I can get hold of <lj-user="elenariel">? I'd like to talk to them.)
Jun. 21st, 2008 05:30 pm (UTC)
I'll message her for you and hope that she picks it up!
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Jun. 21st, 2008 06:01 pm (UTC)
I vote for deviating from history! Only because it'd be more interesting and we wouldn't have to focus on EXACT MILITARY MOVEMENTS to get to the same end result as the textbooks say.
Jun. 21st, 2008 08:03 pm (UTC)
I said I'd be getting characters done soon, and I will - within the next couple of days, I should think, if not tonight. :)

I'm all for changing around who wins and who loses - it's part of the fun in the Temeraire series, so I think it'd be part of the fun in the RP here. xD

And as far as foreigners go, I am totally interested, especially since RPing historical figures was OKed. Actually, if the option becomes available later in-game, I was considering apping Lt. Col. Arthur Fremantle. So yeah, I'd definitely like to see that happen.
Jun. 22nd, 2008 06:15 am (UTC)
Would you mind letting me know if your characters will be from the North or the South, and if they are dragons or humans? :'D

Everyone thinks so, too, so I think that's how it'll go. XD

I would totally love to see that, too! Aaah, fun tiems.
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Jun. 22nd, 2008 03:13 am (UTC)
That chart covered everything. Now we just need to decide who starts where and how to end up together for the interactions.

Half the fun of this RP is watching which way the wind blows. I vote for deviation, and let's see if we'll end up with a Timeline 191-esque ending. And don't fret about missing the early stages of the war; there's always that handy all-in-italics plot device called a "flashback". |O|

If we want to include foreigners, we could bring them in right after Antietam; though historically that was the battle that convinced the foreigners to stay out, regardless of the outcome in our version it could be the battle that gave the foreigners a little hope for the Secess'.

Oh, and instead of chapters, how's about calling them acts, and naming each one. E.g. Act 1: The Road to Antietam or something. Last but definitely not least, how long is each act going to take? We don't want to out-run ourselves by finishing Antietam too early before new players come in. The war could be over by the time we see some new blood. |O|
Jun. 22nd, 2008 03:24 am (UTC)
My opinion on above.
Point 1) I agree. Things could turn out differently when dragons are involved. I, for one, would like to see how things turn out.
2) Perhaps they are moved by pity from the bloodshed? I was thinking the Europeans might be more convinced by an especially eloquent diplomat on dragonback.
3) Once again, I agree, let's pace ourselves.
Jun. 22nd, 2008 03:38 am (UTC)
That's a great idea in your point 2 there. I can just imagine a so-called "side quest" involving Union aviators racing to intercept/destroy a Confederate embassy to Europe. Whether they succeed or fail, however... please refer to point 1!
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Jun. 22nd, 2008 03:58 am (UTC)
I found this list on Wikipedia that excellently sums up all the battles fought in the war, in chronological order for easy reference. Now, I know I mentioned earlier downplaying the combat in favor of the drama, but as a military history buff I feel that certain great clashes of this war should be RPed if possible. Especially since some of them hold shiny plot opportunities (case in point: Stonewall Jackson's death from friendly fire at Chancellorsville. Are you sure the fire was friendly? wink wink)

Chancellorsville, Shiloh, Chickamauga, the Wilderness, and Yorktown are some of the battles we could consider playing out or adding to expanded acts if the story arc permits. (I'm not even going to suggest Chester Station. |O|)
Jun. 22nd, 2008 11:46 am (UTC)
Sorry for deleting the previous comment! I remembered something so I edited the Acts to include something new for the first Act. Thanks so much for that list! It made comparing dates so much easier for me. orz.

Intro, etc.
Act One:
Battle of Yorktown (April 5 – May 4) (Oh, wait, conflict of schedule. I don't think we can afford to split the characters, either... Hmm.)
Battle of Shiloh (Tennessee) April 6–7, 1862
Fall of New Orleans (Louisiana) April 25 to May 1 – I thought to let chapter 1 end with this, to give the Southerners the chance to KEEP New Orleans. What do you think? This moves Antietam to the Second Act.
Optional Side quest: Seven days Battle (June 25 to July, 1862)

Act Two:
Side quest:
Second Bull Run (Virginia) August 29–30, 1862
Battle of Antietam (Maryland) September 17, 1862

Act Three:
Side quest: Picking up those foreigners!
Vicksburg Campaigns (December 1862 to July 4, 1863)
Battle of Chancellorsville (Virginia) May 1–4, 1863
Battle of Gettysburg (Pennsylvania) July 1–3, 1863

Act Four:
Side Quest: Off-the-coast privateer battles.
Battle of Chickamauga (Georgia) September 19–20, 1863
Atlanta Campaign (May - August 24, 1864)

Act Five:
Battle of the Wilderness (Virginia) May 5–7, 1864
Battle of Spotsylvania Court House (Virginia) May 8 –21, 1864
Atlanta Campaign (May - August 24, 1864)

Act Six:
Battle of Cedar Creek, October 19, 1864
Side quest: Sherman's March to the Sea, November - December, 1864
Carolinas Campaign (February 17 - March 21, 1865)

Like before, this is hardly final. It will change a lot depending on the outcomes of the first battles, I think. Also, maybe we should put in more side quests for fun.
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Jun. 26th, 2008 04:25 am (UTC)
Oh, and I had a thought about the New-Orleans-being-under-the-Union-at-the-time-we-start-problem. What if we kicked off our time-tampering ways by making the history books say that, due to the involvement, or at least because dragons are involved, New Orleans was not taken by the North. I'm not quite sure how that'd work out, but it'd sure solve a headache for people who are in the South and want to visit the world's biggest slave market. :P
Anyway, how does that sound?
Jun. 26th, 2008 05:19 am (UTC)
I covered this part in one of the comments in this post. o: I was wondering if we could tackle the problem for the first Act, and make it so that the big campaign for the first Act is the South's attempt at getting New Orleans back.

But this works nicely, too. XD Not to mention that it'd be way faster to do it this way.
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Jul. 3rd, 2008 06:37 pm (UTC)
aella_irene and I have talked and decided Flavia and Artemis should be in Washington D.C. when we get started. ;)
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Jul. 4th, 2008 03:44 pm (UTC)
Re: Interesting
Oh, hi!

What do you mean by Northerners or Southerners? Do you mean real people in history? Otherwise, our characters have their respective sides and stuff! o:

Ehe... we'll be trying to keep to the theme of the original civil war, yes!
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